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01:34:08 PM Fy 16 Budget Overview: University of Alaska
02:45:23 PM Fy 16 Budget Overview: Dept. of Fish & Game
03:40:43 PM Adjourn
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- FY16 University of Alaska
- FY16 Dept. of Fish & Game
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 29, 2015                                                                                           
                         1:33 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:33:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman called the House Finance Committee meeting                                                                      
to order at 1:33 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mark Neuman, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Steve Thompson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Dan Saddler, Vice-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative Lynn Gattis                                                                                                      
Representative David Guttenberg                                                                                                 
Representative Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                   
Representative Cathy Munoz                                                                                                      
Representative Tammie Wilson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Patrick  Gamble,   President,  University  of   Alaska;  Sam                                                                    
Cotten,  Commissioner, Department  of Fish  and Game;  Kevin                                                                    
Brooks, Deputy  Commissioner, Department  of Fish  and Game;                                                                    
Charles  Swanton, Deputy  Commissioner,  Department of  Fish                                                                    
and  Game;  Bruce  Dale,   Director,  Division  of  Wildlife                                                                    
Conservation, Department of Fish and Game.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
FY 16 BUDGET OVERVIEW: UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
FY 16 BUDGET OVERVIEW: DEPT. OF FISH & GAME                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:34:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
^FY 16 BUDGET OVERVIEW: UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:34:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman reviewed the agenda for the day.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PATRICK GAMBLE, PRESIDENT,  UNIVERSITY OF ALASKA, introduced                                                                    
his staff  member, Michelle  Rizk, Associate  Vice President                                                                    
who  was the  primary  person responsible  for creating  the                                                                    
University of Alaska's budget.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble introduced  the PowerPoint presentation "FY                                                                    
16 Budget  Overview: University of  Alaska" (copy  on file).                                                                    
He  explained that  he  typically  began every  presentation                                                                    
with the university's mission which  he drew attention to on                                                                    
slide  2:  "The  UA  Mission."  In  times  when  things  got                                                                    
complicated he reviewed the mission  statement as a reminder                                                                    
and an evaluation measure.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:35:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble   advanced  to   slide  3:   "Serving  All                                                                    
Alaskans." He  emphasized the large  size of  the university                                                                    
system  which  included  three  universities,  12  community                                                                    
campuses in  rural Alaska, and several  outreach centers. He                                                                    
mentioned some of  the remote sites such as  Yukon Flats and                                                                    
Tok. He  gave credit  to technology  which made  it possible                                                                    
for  the university  to conduct  business providing  classes                                                                    
and  education to  areas across  the state  and through  the                                                                    
Interior.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble  discussed  the  organizational  chart  on                                                                    
slide 4: "Top Level  Organizational Chart." He discussed the                                                                    
turbulence  of  the  budget  and  the  turbulent  times  the                                                                    
university  faced.   He  pointed  to  the   names  of  newly                                                                    
nominated  members  to  the Board  of  Regents  looking  for                                                                    
confirmation  from  the  legislature  depicted  in  red.  He                                                                    
anticipated  losing the  student regent  upon graduation  in                                                                    
the following May. The student  vacancy would be filled with                                                                    
the appointment of  another student. Also, there  would be 5                                                                    
voting  regents   turning  over  concurrently.   He  briefly                                                                    
discussed his own retirement and  the search committee being                                                                    
formed to  find his  replacement. Additionally, a  search to                                                                    
fill  the Vice  President of  Academic Affairs  and Research                                                                    
position was  ongoing. He elaborated  that the  position was                                                                    
the equivalent of  the provost at the  system-wide level and                                                                    
was  the  University  of  Alaska  (UA)  President's  contact                                                                    
person  and advisor  in matters  of academics  and research.                                                                    
There  were  over 70  applicants  from  all over  the  world                                                                    
interested  in  the position.  The  board  had narrowed  the                                                                    
search to  5 candidates. It  was a very  important position.                                                                    
He  also mentioned  that John  Pugh, the  Chancellor of  the                                                                    
University  of  Alaska  Southeast  (UAS)  campus,  would  be                                                                    
leaving as well as the  provost for the University Of Alaska                                                                    
Anchorage  (UAA).  He  continued  to explain  that  the  top                                                                    
leadership of  the university, the  university-wide decision                                                                    
makers,  included  the  UA  President,  Vice  President  for                                                                    
Academic  Affairs   and  Research,  and  the   three  campus                                                                    
chancellors.  There was  a level  of leadership  independent                                                                    
from the prerogatives  of each of the  three chancellors and                                                                    
the three universities.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble  reported  that   it  was  his  fourteenth                                                                    
consecutive year  of briefing the legislature  on either the                                                                    
railroad  or  the  university  system.  Typically,  he  came                                                                    
before the committee  to arm wrestle for  chunks of funding.                                                                    
However,  at  present,  the  circumstances  were  different.                                                                    
Instead, his  focus was on  figuring out how  the university                                                                    
was going to  handle the budget crisis. He did  not have all                                                                    
of  the  governor's  numbers  yet   and  made  note  of  the                                                                    
legislature's numbers. He suggested  that the university and                                                                    
the state  would have to resolve  differences in determining                                                                    
how to  handle reductions  rather than growth.  A discussion                                                                    
had not occurred but the university was ready to have one.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:39:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble scrolled  to  slide  5: "Shaping  Alaska's                                                                    
Future."  He  stated  that   the  theme,  "Shaping  Alaska's                                                                    
Future,"  was the  cornerstone for  what the  university was                                                                    
trying to do  to the entire university system.  It was board                                                                    
policy to  turn the  theme of  shaping Alaska's  future into                                                                    
policy. He  supposed that just  because the trail  got rough                                                                    
did not mean it was the  wrong trail. The theme would remain                                                                    
the guide for the direction of the university.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble  looked  at  slide  6:  "Shaping  Alaska's                                                                    
Future."  He  mentioned  that there  were  keys  in  shaping                                                                    
Alaska's  future  shown  on the  slide.  He  emphasized  the                                                                    
importance of  maintaining quality  in the classroom  and in                                                                    
the  research  lab.  He  believed   that  quality  could  be                                                                    
maintained without additional people  or funding to maintain                                                                    
it. He did  not think there was  a statistical relationship.                                                                    
He  wanted to  make  sure  the university  came  out in  one                                                                    
piece. There  were students that  were graduating  and going                                                                    
into workforce programs  during the period of  time in which                                                                    
the  university  was  faced  with  budget  difficulties.  He                                                                    
opined that  UA could not  let its students down  because it                                                                    
would lead  to letting employers  and the rest of  the state                                                                    
down. The  University of Alaska  felt strongly  about making                                                                    
its compact  whole during the challenging  period. The state                                                                    
needed people who were willing  to knuckle down and ride out                                                                    
the  storm. The  people internally  in the  system would  be                                                                    
very important.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble continued  that  partnerships with  others                                                                    
would  provide avenues  for the  university  system to  move                                                                    
forward. He  would provide  additional information  later in                                                                    
his presentation.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble advanced  to  slide 7:  "FY16 Budget."  In                                                                    
dealing with  a tighter  budget the  university had  to make                                                                    
reductions  without  compromising  its core.  The  core  was                                                                    
based  around  offerings  including  workforce  development,                                                                    
academic  degrees,  and  research.   He  felt  that  if  the                                                                    
university  maintained its  core successfully  then when  it                                                                    
had to reevaluate increments again  the core would allow for                                                                    
a smooth recovery. The plan was designed around the core.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble thought  there  was  an opportunity  under                                                                    
duress  for  the  university  to   strengthen  the  core  by                                                                    
redoubling its efforts. The  university would be data-driven                                                                    
making  decisions   accordingly.  Prioritization   would  be                                                                    
important in meeting Alaska's  business requirements, and it                                                                    
would be essential to building partnerships.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:44:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble looked  at slide 8: "Core  Services and the                                                                    
FY16  Budget."  Research  was  critical  to  the  core.  The                                                                    
university  received   $140  million  to  $150   million  in                                                                    
research  funding each  year,  comprised  mostly of  federal                                                                    
dollars. The university had world  class researchers. If the                                                                    
university  were  to destroy  a  research  project of  world                                                                    
class notoriety it would never  regain its research dollars.                                                                    
There  was significant  competition around  the country  for                                                                    
research  funding. There  was a  multiplying force  with the                                                                    
money as  well as  a discretionary piece  for administrative                                                                    
purposes  that came  into university  coffers as  additional                                                                    
revenue.  He  emphasized  research being  essential  to  the                                                                    
core.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble turned to slide 9: "Maintaining Results":                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Graduation rate nearly 12 percent higher than FY10                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Degrees and certificates awarded in FY14 at an all-                                                                        
     time high - up 31 percent from FY10                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Engineering degrees up 25 percent from FY10                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Degrees in high-demand job areas up 22 percent                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Teacher education degrees up 27 percent since FY10                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Received more than $650 million in competitive                                                                             
     research grants since FY10 - $118 M in FY14 alone                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble pointed  out  the  importance of  advising                                                                    
students.  The  function  of advisors  was  key  to  student                                                                    
success. The university  set up metrics in  order to measure                                                                    
progress.  The legislature  had funded  the university  such                                                                    
that all  freshmen and sophomores throughout  the system had                                                                    
advisors  for their  first two  years if  attendance at  the                                                                    
university. Advising  was conducted  differently at  each of                                                                    
its  three main  campuses but  results showed  students were                                                                    
responding well to their advisors.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble  wanted to rebuild around  things that were                                                                    
working for  the university. He  did not want to  see things                                                                    
cut from  the budget  without realizing their  connection to                                                                    
success. No  one wanted to  give up quality and  success. He                                                                    
pointed out  that the slide depicted  the university's first                                                                    
and best  results list.  The items on  the list  were either                                                                    
being seen  for the first  time or their  related statistics                                                                    
were  at their  best levels.  He  relayed that  a number  of                                                                    
statistics had been made available  to committee members and                                                                    
their staff.  He opined  that if  the university  system was                                                                    
going  to structure  around its  core,  it should  structure                                                                    
around the  things that worked.  It was at least  a starting                                                                    
point.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
President   Gamble  discussed   slide  10:   "Achieving  New                                                                    
Results":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     UA percentage of total degrees that are STEM, 6th in                                                                       
     the U.S for public institutions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     UAA 2015 list of the best online programs for master's                                                                     
     degrees in education.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     UAA ranked by US News and World Report in the top 5%                                                                       
     out of 1421 institutions in the Western Region.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     UAA Experimental Economics ranked 10th in the nation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     UAS 2015 list Best Online Teaching Degrees.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     UAF Homeland Security and Emergency Management (HSEM)                                                                      
     program, ranked as 2nd in the US for affordability of                                                                      
     program and 5th in the US for quality of program.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     UAF research publications and citations on Arctic                                                                          
     research top not only the nation, but are also #1 in                                                                       
     the world!                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble  briefly  touched  on the  fact  that  the                                                                    
university was receiving national  attention for some of its                                                                    
programs. The  slide highlighted  a number of  programs that                                                                    
would likely be essential to the core.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:48:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble read from slide  11: "How to Strengthen the                                                                    
Core":                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Address the higher education paradigm shift:                                                                               
         · keep building value and accountability                                                                               
          · a balance of tuition and fees                                                                                       
          · compete, stay relevant, embrace institutional                                                                       
             excellence, service                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Establish partnerships:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
          · the State of Alaska, federal government,                                                                            
             commercial businesses                                                                                              
          · K-12 schools; other universities                                                                                    
          · private industry                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Build a reputation for excellence that will continue                                                                       
     to attract students, excellent faculty, research                                                                           
     dollars, and that give us a place at the table.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble  mentioned   strengthening  the  core  and                                                                    
wondered  about  how  to  do   so.  He  mentioned  that  the                                                                    
university worked closely with  the state's school board. He                                                                    
spoke about integrating  what was taught in  K-12 to enhance                                                                    
the ability of a student to  enter college. The goal was for                                                                    
students to enter into college  without having to go through                                                                    
a mediation and  for them to be  successful, particularly in                                                                    
the first  two years  of college.  The university  wanted to                                                                    
integrate  the transition  from high  school to  college. He                                                                    
also  mentioned  encouraging  more  students  to  strive  in                                                                    
conjunction  with the  Alaska  Performance Scholarship  Fund                                                                    
program. He  hoped to  see students meet  the rigor  in high                                                                    
school  by  starting  as  early  as  possible  in  extending                                                                    
themselves. Beginning  earlier in high school  would help to                                                                    
remove  the burden  of  college by  reducing  costs and  the                                                                    
amount of  time for  students to  graduate. He  believed the                                                                    
university  could build  a reputation  for excellence  under                                                                    
fire. He  opined that  people were  attracted to  seeing the                                                                    
success  of a  university  in  sustaining, maintaining,  and                                                                    
improving itself even when encountering  a budget crisis. He                                                                    
suggested  that   if  the  university   disassembled  itself                                                                    
resulting  in lost  faculty and  student recruits,  it would                                                                    
take  a  decade  to  recover,  similar  to  what  the  state                                                                    
experience from the timeframe of about 1986 to 1998.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble elaborated  on slide  12; ""Niches"  - The                                                                    
Focal Points":                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Research for Alaska's needs                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          · FSMI - Alaska's largest workforce                                                                                   
          · Arctic Policy                                                                                                       
          · Aerospace                                                                                                           
          · Health Sciences                                                                                                     
          · Geo Sciences                                                                                                        
          · Land Grant Exploitation                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble  pointed out that  the list  outlined areas                                                                    
in which  the university  excelled and  needed to  focus. He                                                                    
purported  that   research  projects  being   contracted  to                                                                    
entities  outside  of  Alaska  could  be  performed  by  the                                                                    
university.  He   relayed  that  the  university   would  be                                                                    
proposing   the  introduction   of  legislation   giving  it                                                                    
preference for research projects  in Alaska. He believed the                                                                    
legislation would require a language change.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble  also  mentioned  introducing  legislation                                                                    
having to do  with land grant exploitation.  He talked about                                                                    
having shopped  the idea around  for the previous  two years                                                                    
without  having  any  push-back  from  the  legislature.  He                                                                    
informed the  committee that he  had taken it to  the former                                                                    
governor  who directed  him to  have  the state's  attorneys                                                                    
review  it.   He  had  drafted  language   and  conducted  a                                                                    
considerable amount  of legal  research to see  if it  was a                                                                    
viable  idea,  which  he  found  it  was.  He  informed  the                                                                    
committee of an article that  would be published on February                                                                    
1, 2015  which encapsulated  the notion that  the university                                                                    
would not  be receiving  its land grant.  He added  that the                                                                    
land  the university  would have  received had  already been                                                                    
divided.  He  remarked  that  UAF   remained  a  land  grant                                                                    
university. The  university needed  to figure  out a  way to                                                                    
get  the  equivalent of  its  federally  intended and  state                                                                    
intended   dowry.   Historically,   the   first   piece   of                                                                    
legislation that  the original  body of legislators  took up                                                                    
following statehood  was the university's land  grant. There                                                                    
was solid  support behind the  legislation at the  time, and                                                                    
he gathered  there would  be solid  support at  present. The                                                                    
proposal included the idea that  a fractional portion of any                                                                    
new resource development contracts  or any renewed contracts                                                                    
would go  into an account  on an annual basis  controlled by                                                                    
the legislature. It  would be used for  UA capital projects.                                                                    
The  university approached  the legislature  every year  for                                                                    
renovation   and   repair  dollars,   deferred   maintenance                                                                    
dollars,  and for  money for  capital  equipment, which  was                                                                    
funded  about a  tenth of  a percent  over the  previous ten                                                                    
years. The  fund would  allow UA  to take  a portion  of the                                                                    
money  from   the  account,  in   the  form  of   an  annual                                                                    
appropriation by  the legislature,  to pay  for some  of the                                                                    
capital  items   he  mentioned.  He  relayed   that  similar                                                                    
legislation had not failed because  it was not controlled by                                                                    
the  legislature.  He reiterated  that  it  was an  idea  in                                                                    
response  to the  governor and  the legislature  encouraging                                                                    
him to  think outside of the  box in terms of  new revenues.                                                                    
He mentioned  the university looking at  Texas' three models                                                                    
used to do the same thing successfully.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:54:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble   advanced  to   slide  13:   "The  Model:                                                                    
Eliminate Cost + Generate Revenue":                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     · Prioritize and reallocate resources                                                                                      
     · Space utilization: reduce leased space, consolidate                                                                      
     · Long-term facility management plan… Sightlines,                                                                          
        university building fund, Land Grant Equivalency                                                                        
        initiative                                                                                                              
     · Control energy expense                                                                                                   
     · System-level collaborations                                                                                              
     · Commercialization                                                                                                        
     · Investment opportunities…unmanned aerial systems,                                                                        
        alternative   energy,   arctic   research,   climate                                                                    
        research, fisheries, oceans, space physics                                                                              
     · Enroll and retain more students                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble continued to  review the model encompassing                                                                    
the idea of  how to compress around and  maintain the health                                                                    
and  strength  of  the  core.  The  elements  of  the  model                                                                    
included internal prioritization  and resource allocation. A                                                                    
couple  of years  previously the  legislature had  given the                                                                    
university the authority to move  from 7 appropriations to a                                                                    
single  appropriation. He  suggested  that it  would not  be                                                                    
possible to use the model  with 7 appropriations. He relayed                                                                    
that  the  university  was  in the  process  of  looking  at                                                                    
consolidating  space  and  erasing  turf  lines  to  improve                                                                    
efficiencies. Consolidation  had always  made sense  but the                                                                    
university had never been under fire as it was presently.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He  continued  that  the  university   had  been  working  a                                                                    
sightlines  model for  the  previous 3  years  to develop  a                                                                    
long-term facility management plan.  The university had over                                                                    
400 buildings  equating to  7 million  square feet  of floor                                                                    
space.  The university  was examining  and categorizing  the                                                                    
floor  space it  in  terms of  mission  support and  support                                                                    
requirements.  If a  space did  not have  value to  meet the                                                                    
university's  mission  it would  be  dispensed.  It was  the                                                                    
first  time the  university had  been able  to evaluate  its                                                                    
property.  It  also   identified  highly  valuable  property                                                                    
mission-essential  to   some  of  the  main   offerings  the                                                                    
university would  continue to provide  for several  years in                                                                    
the  future. It  was  important not  to  allow the  mission-                                                                    
essential properties  to fall into deferred  maintenance and                                                                    
believed that  the account he  had mentioned would  help. He                                                                    
asserted  that things  started  to  become dilapidated  when                                                                    
maintenance was  deferred for  10 to  15 years.  Through the                                                                    
use of the account he  suggested, the university would never                                                                    
let maintenance go for long.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble relayed  that in FY 16 energy  would be the                                                                    
sole  responsibility of  the university.  Controlling energy                                                                    
expenses  would  be  hugely important.  Also,  he  mentioned                                                                    
commercialization. He  indicated that  Dr. Dan White  was in                                                                    
the audience  and had been  key at the University  of Alaska                                                                    
Fairbanks in taking intellectual  property and converting it                                                                    
into economics.  He reported that  it was very  effective in                                                                    
enhancing the recruitment of professors and researchers.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
President   Gamble   continued  by   addressing   investment                                                                    
opportunities. He pointed  to the list on the  slide. He did                                                                    
not support  the idea that  investments were  not available.                                                                    
The  university  would  be charged  with  the  challenge  of                                                                    
having to make  key in a time of adversity  in order to come                                                                    
out successful.  One of the  toughest problems  was deciding                                                                    
what  to keep  rather than  what to  cut. He  commented that                                                                    
investments might  be necessary.  He thought  it might  be a                                                                    
significant  challenge  to  find,  agree  upon,  and  follow                                                                    
through with investments.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble  emphasized  the importance  of  retaining                                                                    
students. He  relayed that losing  a student in  their first                                                                    
semester,  who would  otherwise  be graduating  in 5  years,                                                                    
would  equate  to  a  university  loss  of  9  semesters  of                                                                    
tuition.  Once  students were  in  the  door the  university                                                                    
needed  to  keep  them to  ensure  future  tuition  revenue.                                                                    
Student retention  was a focal  area for the  university. He                                                                    
suggested  it  might  require  internal  investment  in  the                                                                    
future and that advising had helped in retaining students.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:59:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble advanced to slide 14: "Challenges":                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Readiness for college and/or workforce                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     · The "core"                                                                                                               
     · Communicating a positive message of quality and                                                                          
        excellence while rightsizing staff and faculty,                                                                         
        programs and departments, to meet a state budget                                                                        
        reduction plan                                                                                                          
     · Addressing aging infrastructure                                                                                          
    · Meeting the needs of public and private partners                                                                          
     · Preserving the ability to invest for future returns                                                                      
        in the "cut … cut … cut …" environment                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble  reviewed  some   of  the  challenges  the                                                                    
university faced  with the  model. He  first pointed  to the                                                                    
need for a definition of  readiness for college in the State                                                                    
of  Alaska. He  asserted that  the grade  for readiness  for                                                                    
college  had to  be the  university's call  rather than  the                                                                    
high school. He  was in agreement with  the commissioner and                                                                    
the Board of Education on  the issue. Readiness meant that a                                                                    
freshman student could walk into  their first Math, English,                                                                    
or apprenticeship class  and be prepared. He  felt there was                                                                    
more  work  to  accomplish  in the  area  of  readiness  for                                                                    
college.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble explained  that the  definition of  "core"                                                                    
continued to evolve.  Once the core was  fully identified it                                                                    
would be  easier to  discuss what  programs should  stay and                                                                    
which  ones  should  go. He  furthered  that  communications                                                                    
would play a  large role in maintaining the  core. He opined                                                                    
that  it  was  people   that  really  made  the  university'                                                                    
programs. If  a person  was discussing programs,  whether in                                                                    
research or academics, they were  also talking about people.                                                                    
If  a  person  was  considering reductions  they  were  also                                                                    
considering reducing  people in  the workforce. In  terms of                                                                    
beating a 1-year budget, such as  FY 16, fast money would be                                                                    
needed and  did not come  in the form of  program reductions                                                                    
or   a  reduction   in  employees.   There  were   laws  and                                                                    
accreditation issues that  would come into play if  a 2 year                                                                    
program was shut  down. It might help with a  budget 2 years                                                                    
in the  future but  not with  the current  budget. Immediate                                                                    
savings would  only occur  if a person  walked out  the door                                                                    
immediately and  they stopped being  paid. He  conveyed that                                                                    
personnel  equated   to  60  percent  of   the  university's                                                                    
operating  budget.  People would  be  at  the heart  of  the                                                                    
definition of the core.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble spoke  of the  commitments the  university                                                                    
made to public and private  partners and how they would have                                                                    
to be reassessed.  There might be times  that the university                                                                    
would have to  say "no" to long-term  partners. He furthered                                                                    
that  the university  could not  be everything  to everybody                                                                    
anymore. He  also touched on  the difficulty  in considering                                                                    
investments when only looking at a 1-year budget.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:03:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble turned to slide  15: "FY16 Operating Budget                                                                    
Challenges." He  reported that the  university had  a 2-part                                                                    
problem. First, in FY 16 the  university would have to pay a                                                                    
bill  for  salaries  and healthcare.  There  would  also  be                                                                    
invoices  for   contracts  requiring   that  the   money  be                                                                    
incorporated  into the  FY  16 budget.  He  relayed that  it                                                                    
would take  a minimum of 3  years before there would  be any                                                                    
easing in  terms of increased costs  and funding reductions.                                                                    
The  timeframe  could be  longer  or  shorter. He  mentioned                                                                    
hearing the  governor speculate that  there would  be relief                                                                    
within a period of 5  years. Among the legislature there had                                                                    
been talk of  3 years. The legislature and  the governor had                                                                    
both talked about a 25  percent reduction to the university'                                                                    
budget. He was concerned with  the steepness of the angle of                                                                    
reductions.  He  understood  that  if  the  angle  in  which                                                                    
reductions were  applied was flat,  the state would  have to                                                                    
dip into reserves. He surmised  that if the angle was steep,                                                                    
the  university would  experience  a  significant amount  of                                                                    
damage.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble  continued to  explain that in  examining a                                                                    
3-year period two  problems arose. First was  meeting the FY                                                                    
16 budget  and second was  trying to determine  the baseline                                                                    
and what it would look  like after being reduced year-after-                                                                    
year. The  baseline would make  up the total budget  for the                                                                    
university system.  He wondered  what programs would  be cut                                                                    
and what  programs would be  left in place. He  also brought                                                                    
up the  topic of building  the FY  17 budget after  July 1st                                                                    
and  encountering the  same issues  in designing  the budget                                                                    
for FY 16.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble referred to the  chart on slide 15 pointing                                                                    
to the $12.1 general fund  (GF) reduction. He noted that the                                                                    
university had  reviewed numbers  provided by the  Office of                                                                    
Management  and Budget  (OMB). In  order to  arrive at  a 25                                                                    
percent  reduction  he  assumed  that what  was  left  after                                                                    
removing the $12  million he could cut in  half applying the                                                                    
first half to the  FY 17 budget and the second  to the FY 18                                                                    
budget.  He stressed  that the  GF reduction  would continue                                                                    
over  the following  3  years and  the  baseline would  also                                                                    
shrink  over the  same  time period.  He  wondered what  the                                                                    
university would look like at the  end of 3 years. It became                                                                    
increasingly difficult to run the numbers out 5 years.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He  highlighted two  numbers;  the GF  baseline  end in  the                                                                    
amount  of $288.5  million and  the UA  System bogey  in the                                                                    
amount  of $42.9  million under  FY  16. The  bogey was  the                                                                    
amount  which the  university  would have  to  come up  with                                                                    
either in the  form of internal reallocations  to offset the                                                                    
figure  or cash.  The money  was  not part  of the  baseline                                                                    
amount and  would have  to be  covered in  some way  such as                                                                    
cutting an  expense. He outlined  that the  university would                                                                    
have  to pay  its bills  with revenue,  reduce expenditures,                                                                    
and shrink the baseline.  The difference between the current                                                                    
briefing and any other briefing  was that the university had                                                                    
always asked  for increments  and argued  about the  size of                                                                    
the  increment. At  present, the  university was  looking at                                                                    
shrinking  the  baseline  for  the   following  3  years,  a                                                                    
negative increment. He  wondered about what would  be cut in                                                                    
order to  keep something else.  He mentioned having  a 2-day                                                                    
strategic session with the university  board in the previous                                                                    
week. He  approached the chancellors and  provided them with                                                                    
guidance,  the model,  and the  university's priorities  and                                                                    
had  them   apply  their  portion  of   reductions  to  each                                                                    
college's  budget. The  overall  reduction  was about  $42.9                                                                    
million.   He  wondered   what  the   university  would   do                                                                    
specifically.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble reasoned  that when  trying to  answer the                                                                    
question about what  to do the answers were at  a level that                                                                    
no  one  at  the  university  had  dealt  with  before.  The                                                                    
university had taken a $17 million  hit in FY 15. In looking                                                                    
at the  budget for FY  16 the targeted amount  of reductions                                                                    
was  far  greater than  in  the  prior year.  Actual  budget                                                                    
proposals  with specific  recommendations would  be provided                                                                    
at the February 2015 board meeting.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble  reported  that  the  board  reviewed  the                                                                    
materials he had supplied  including equivalency charts. The                                                                    
charts  identified different  options that  added up  to the                                                                    
reductions  for each  college.  He  provided a  hypothetical                                                                    
scenario in  which the university  reductions were  paid for                                                                    
in personnel cuts.  A range was used to  provide an educated                                                                    
guess as  to how many  people would have  to be laid  off in                                                                    
order  to cover  the  deficit amount.  Running such  numbers                                                                    
helped  to demonstrate  the magnitude  of  the problem.  The                                                                    
chancellors  also  applied cuts  to  programs  to cover  the                                                                    
bogey figure. He  opined that many of the  things offered up                                                                    
to cover the  $42 million deficit were going  to be included                                                                    
in the  recommended cuts.  The board  gave clearance  to the                                                                    
university  administration  to  move  forward  with  planned                                                                    
cuts.  He thought  the legislature  should be  aware of  the                                                                    
gravity  of   the  reductions  and   be  provided   with  an                                                                    
opportunity to have  input. The university would  have to go                                                                    
through the  reduction process again  in FY 17. In  terms of                                                                    
fast money and  slow money the university had to  get to the                                                                    
reduction  number  quickly.  If programs  were  reduced  the                                                                    
university  would have  to spend  upwards  of 2  to 3  years                                                                    
teaching out all  of the students within  the college. There                                                                    
was a great level of  complexity that accompanied the budget                                                                    
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble asked  that legislators  provide him  with                                                                    
the latitude  necessary to work  the core. He would  be able                                                                    
to  produce  a  number  which   could  be  provided  to  the                                                                    
legislature. He  relayed that  the board  needed all  of the                                                                    
options on the table. He  asked legislators to tell him what                                                                    
they  wanted. He  thought  legislators  could help  identify                                                                    
considered   "political   hot    potatoes".   He   suggested                                                                    
thoroughly debating  them prior to making  any decisions. He                                                                    
commented that  the structure of  the university was  on the                                                                    
table.  After  3  or  4   years  of  budget  reductions  the                                                                    
university  could  be very  different.  As  the base  became                                                                    
smaller and  smaller the structure  would be more  likely to                                                                    
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:17:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President   Gamble  noted   the  slides   provided  by   the                                                                    
Legislative Finance  Division (LFD)  and indicated  he would                                                                    
not  be  providing  a  briefing   on  them.  The  university                                                                    
formulated  charts  to  help  with  determining  what  drove                                                                    
spending  and operations.  He believed  that the  LFD charts                                                                    
examined  past results.  He  concluded  his presentation  by                                                                    
offering to answer any questions from committee members.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  commented  that he  and  President  Gamble                                                                    
spoke  to  each  other  frequently. He  indicated  they  had                                                                    
discussed the budget and the  future direction of the state.                                                                    
President Gamble had recently pointed  out that much of what                                                                    
had been discussed by finance  members was already being put                                                                    
into place.  Co-Chair Neuman suggested  that there  would be                                                                    
reductions to  the budget and  that no one had  expected the                                                                    
state to lose  60 percent of its revenues in  the previous 6                                                                    
months.   He  alluded   to  the   possibility  of   a  total                                                                    
restructuring  of  government  whether  it  applied  to  the                                                                    
university  system or  every other  state agency.  He talked                                                                    
about coming back  to the legislature in  the following year                                                                    
with  a  plan for  the  future.  He suggested  that  further                                                                    
analysis would be completed by  the time the legislature met                                                                    
in the  following year. He  thought there would be  a better                                                                    
forecast of expected revenue streams.  He hoped that the $45                                                                    
per  barrel price  was an  anomaly. He  speculated that  the                                                                    
state was  leaning towards being more  conservative in price                                                                    
estimates.  He maintained  that  President  Gamble was  also                                                                    
being conservative  in creating a budget  for the university                                                                    
system.   He   complimented   President   Gamble   for   his                                                                    
perspective.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Neuman  mentioned   that  President   Gamble  had                                                                    
discussed his biggest concern being  the loss of faculty due                                                                    
to reductions.  He asked him  to discuss how a  reduction in                                                                    
faculty affected the university's future plans.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble responded  that there  was a  common theme                                                                    
which  was that  the  heartbeat of  the university  revolved                                                                    
around  the  tenured  faculty.   The  tenured  faculty  were                                                                    
inclined to  be individuals  who had earned  their positions                                                                    
through reputation, writing,  research, and teaching skills.                                                                    
In effect, the core group  of faculty made up the reputation                                                                    
of a  good public state  university. Over the  years tenured                                                                    
faculty had  been reduced because  of their  costs. Adjuncts                                                                    
had proven  to be  more like  a throttle  on an  airplane. A                                                                    
university was able to hire  adjuncts quickly when there was                                                                    
a  need up  or layoff  adjuncts  expediently. Adjuncts  were                                                                    
typically  good  instructors,  some were  retired  and  some                                                                    
chose  a  certain  lifestyle. Adjuncts  were  typically  the                                                                    
first line of faculty to be  fired. It was very difficult to                                                                    
recover from the loss of  faculty and to continue to recruit                                                                    
into the universities. There had  to be an attraction at the                                                                    
university  in order  to hire  good faculty.  The attraction                                                                    
would be  the quality of  the core of the  professorship and                                                                    
research that  the university had already.  He supposed that                                                                    
if the  attraction was disassembled  or fractured  the state                                                                    
university would  lose student appeal as  well. He mentioned                                                                    
the  disintegration  of  an  institution's  reputation,  and                                                                    
losing  access to  federal  research  dollars. Research  was                                                                    
highly   competitive.   Alaska's   university   system   was                                                                    
significantly  above the  proportion of  federal dollars  in                                                                    
research that  came to  the university  then it  should have                                                                    
been based on  its size. It received the  funding because of                                                                    
its reputation and because of what  it did. He wanted to see                                                                    
the university maintain its  status. Otherwise, the recovery                                                                    
was based on upholding its  reputation. He concluded that it                                                                    
would be one of the areas he would investigate.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:24:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman commented  that it  went back  to what  the                                                                    
legislators could do to try to  freeze what it could and not                                                                    
hold  on  to  what it  had.  He  did  not  want to  see  the                                                                    
university  lose everything  at the  core. President  Gamble                                                                    
reported that the university had  lost its core twice in the                                                                    
past;  once in  1986 and  in 1997  or 1998.  He stated  that                                                                    
there were a couple of  open positions in chemistry that the                                                                    
university  had not  been able  to fill.  He commented  that                                                                    
people were not willing to come  to Alaska. It took about 10                                                                    
years for the university to recuperate.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Saddler  asked   for  an   estimation  of   the                                                                    
university's land grant value and  how long it would take to                                                                    
recover. President  Gamble responded  that he  would provide                                                                    
the  information.  He  alluded   that  the  land  grant  was                                                                    
fractured  and  spread  out  in a  number  of  places  which                                                                    
lowered the  value. The university's ability  to exploit the                                                                    
value would  take money,  an option  the university  did not                                                                    
have currently.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  wanted to  remind people that  it was                                                                    
one  appropriation rather  than 7.  She stated  that once  a                                                                    
dollar amount  was known, the  legislature would  be leaning                                                                    
on the  regents to help  identify where to spend  the money.                                                                    
She    hoped    the    committee   would    respect    their                                                                    
recommendations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman cautioned that there  needed to be a certain                                                                    
amount  of  hands-on  involvement   by  the  legislature  in                                                                    
determining non-allocated reductions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gattis  stated that  she had  constituents in                                                                    
college  that had  expressed concerns  about programs  being                                                                    
cut.  Already  people  were  hearing  about  reductions  and                                                                    
worried about their effects. The  feedback she was receiving                                                                    
came  in the  form  of  requests not  to  cut programs  with                                                                    
hands-on participation  such as lab courses.  She asked that                                                                    
their feedback  be kept in mind.  President Gamble responded                                                                    
that students  were very smart  and provided  good feedback.                                                                    
He  commented   that  the  "e-world"  [internet]   was  well                                                                    
developed  at  present  and  offered  numerous  options  and                                                                    
possibilities. Student  input would  be central to  the path                                                                    
the university took.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:28:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  referred to  the chart  on slide  12. He                                                                    
asked to what degree the  niches or focal points coordinated                                                                    
with private  industry. He wondered  if they  served private                                                                    
uses or if they were more academic or research oriented.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble responded  that  Lockheed  Martin, a  very                                                                    
large aerospace  corporation interested in  entering Alaska,                                                                    
wanted the University of Alaska to  be a major player in the                                                                    
mathematical    research,    workforce   development,    and                                                                    
maintenance of a  project to upgrade a  long-range radar for                                                                    
the  government.   The  university  was  dealing   with  the                                                                    
corporation in  a number of areas  and the company was  in a                                                                    
request  for proposal  (RFP) process.  He thought  it was  a                                                                    
classic  illustration  of  how  Alaska's  physical  location                                                                    
provided unique  opportunities. He furthered that  there was                                                                    
a  business component  involving  manufacturing which  could                                                                    
potentially be  done in  Alaska. Lockheed  Martin maintained                                                                    
the radar for  the F22 and would maintain the  radar for the                                                                    
F35. All polar  launches would occur in  Kodiak, Alaska. The                                                                    
university had an intent to  sign a contract designating the                                                                    
university as  the agent for  all future launches  for polar                                                                    
orbits. The university  would have a free seat  on every one                                                                    
of the rockets. The students  would build the satellites and                                                                    
the university  would do the research  and provide workforce                                                                    
development.  He opined  that  it would  constitute a  solid                                                                    
partnership  that   had  the  potential  to   last  for  the                                                                    
following 50 years.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble indicated  there  were a  number of  other                                                                    
areas that  had potential  for growth.  He wondered  how the                                                                    
university  would  be  willing  to contribute  in  order  to                                                                    
attract   Lockheed  Martin   to   invest   in  Alaska   when                                                                    
negotiations  ensued. He  also wondered  about how  much the                                                                    
state  would benefit.  He opined  that the  university would                                                                    
have to step  up to be a partner if  it wanted partnerships.                                                                    
It was a poor time  to attract people to Alaska. Identifying                                                                    
investments was  included on the  chart. He had a  number of                                                                    
examples such  as in  the area  of unmanned  aircrafts where                                                                    
investment  dollars  were  not   available  in  the  capital                                                                    
budget. It appeared  that the drone program would  come to a                                                                    
halt. There  was no  money for Alaska  Aerospace and  it was                                                                    
possible that  the launch site  would be sold.  He suggested                                                                    
that the state needed to have  a debate where all sides came                                                                    
together before making any decisions.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:32:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman wanted  an update  on  Alaska's new  arctic                                                                    
research vessel, R/V Sikuliaq.  President Gamble stated that                                                                    
the vessel  would be delivered  to Seward in  February 2015.                                                                    
It was  a state-of-the-art  vessel which had  sailed through                                                                    
several  waters performing  research. He  reported that  any                                                                    
bugs were  worked out.  It was  currently in  Alaskan waters                                                                    
and ready for its next mission.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman   asked  if  the  University   was  largely                                                                    
involved.  President  Gamble  responded  affirmatively.  The                                                                    
university had reserved  space on every cruise.  It would be                                                                    
afloat  approximately 200  days per  year for  several years                                                                    
into the future.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Kawasaki commented  that most  agencies were                                                                    
looking  at  user  fee  increases.  He  mentioned  that  the                                                                    
Department  of  Natural  Resources, Division  of  Parks  and                                                                    
Outdoor Recreation  was looking  at tripling  or quadrupling                                                                    
fees that  had not  been changed  for a  least 10  years. He                                                                    
supposed that the university had  a way to increase revenues                                                                    
by increasing  room and board  fees and tuition. He  was not                                                                    
suggesting increasing  fees but  wanted President  Gamble to                                                                    
respond.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
President Gamble  replied that  the governor  strongly urged                                                                    
the  use of  fees  to generate  revenue.  He had  encouraged                                                                    
agencies to  review their fees. Although  the university had                                                                    
received the  governor's message,  fees were not  normally a                                                                    
topic that took  up much time in a  discussion. He explained                                                                    
that  the board  policy outlined  that money  collected from                                                                    
fees  had to  go  directly towards  their  intended use.  He                                                                    
could not take fees and use  them as UGF. In a discussion in                                                                    
the  previous week,  the university  decided  that it  would                                                                    
look at  its fees  to determine  possible revisions.  At the                                                                    
time  the  university  submitted  its budget  there  was  no                                                                    
recommendation to  increase tuition,  however, circumstances                                                                    
had changed. He  understood that the red  or camouflage book                                                                    
that the university had was  no longer relevant. In the book                                                                    
the board,  in its wisdom  at the  time, decided it  did not                                                                    
need  to raise  tuition.  The topic  was  revisited and  the                                                                    
result  was that  there  would  be a  raise  in tuition.  He                                                                    
concluded  that the  university would  ultimately raise  its                                                                    
fees and tuition.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:36:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg asked  about the university's role                                                                    
in  the  upcoming  opportunities   in  the  Arctic.  He  was                                                                    
concerned  about  lost   opportunities.  As  the  University                                                                    
refocused he wanted to make  sure a path was still available                                                                    
for  the University  to  play  a key  role  in research.  He                                                                    
emphasized that  all of the payers  including China, Russia,                                                                    
Singapore, and Kuwait were playing  a part in developing the                                                                    
arctic. He mentioned  that the Northwest Passage  had been a                                                                    
dream  for people  for hundreds  of  years. He  reemphasized                                                                    
that he did  not want the university  to miss opportunities.                                                                    
He also  wanted the state to  be ready for when  the economy                                                                    
rebounded. He did not want  lost infrastructure impeding the                                                                    
university from doing its job.  He spoke proudly of the West                                                                    
Ridge  Research  Center  at   UAF  and  perceived  that  the                                                                    
Secretary of the United States  Navy had been impressed with                                                                    
the university's  job well done.  He was concerned  with the                                                                    
state's role  with infrastructure  needs and  potential lost                                                                    
possibilities. He furthered that if  the state did not build                                                                    
a port  in the Arctic prior  to someone else, it  would lose                                                                    
commerce and  an incredible  opportunity. He  understood the                                                                    
fiscal constraints of the state  but hoped the existing road                                                                    
map would remain in place.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Neuman   was   unclear   whether   Representative                                                                    
Guttenberg had a question.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  stated  that he  was  making  an                                                                    
observation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
President  Gamble commented  that  UA  was America's  arctic                                                                    
university.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:40:01 PM                                                                                                                    
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2:45:23 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
^FY 16 BUDGET OVERVIEW: DEPT. OF FISH & GAME                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:45:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman introduced the committee's next presenter.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SAM  COTTEN,  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF  FISH  AND  GAME,                                                                    
introduced  himself and  his staff.  He indicated  his staff                                                                    
would be  available for  questions. He  relayed that  he was                                                                    
new  to his  position and  understood the  responsibility to                                                                    
the people  of Alaska. He  conveyed that in his  position he                                                                    
would try to be as responsive  and as open as possible about                                                                    
how the Department  of Fish and Game made  its decisions. He                                                                    
was  very  pleased  and   impressed  with  the  professional                                                                    
caliber  of  the  staff  currently  at  the  department  and                                                                    
acknowledged  their dedication.  He turned  the presentation                                                                    
over to Mr. Brooks.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman asked  Mr. Brooks to focus  on highlights of                                                                    
the presentation due to time constraints.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN BROOKS,  DEPUTY COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF  FISH AND                                                                    
GAME, introduced the PowerPoint  presentation: "FY 16 Budget                                                                    
Overview: Department  of Fish and  Game (copy on  file)." He                                                                    
indicated  there were  about 30  slides in  the presentation                                                                    
and he  could certainly  get through  them with  enough time                                                                    
for questions at the end.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:48:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks turned  to slide 2. He noted  that the Department                                                                    
of Fish and Game's (DFG)  mission statement was derived from                                                                    
the Alaska  Constitution and Title  16.05.020 in  the Alaska                                                                    
Statutes.  The mission  statement encompassed  a portion  of                                                                    
both documents.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  pointed to  slide 3:  "ADF&G Core  Services." He                                                                    
mentioned  that  management  included  measuring  commercial                                                                    
harvests,  issuing   habitat  permits,  angler   days,  user                                                                    
harvests and  success, and  participating in  federal issues                                                                    
that affecting the state. The  second core service was stock                                                                    
assessment and  research accomplished by  meeting escapement                                                                    
goals,  meeting or  exceeding  threshold  harvests or  catch                                                                    
levels,  performing wildlife  and  subsistence surveys,  and                                                                    
doing  research.  Another  important component  of  DFG  was                                                                    
customer  service  and  public involvement.  The  department                                                                    
conducted  hunting  and  angling skills  programs,  provided                                                                    
opportunities  for  Alaskans  to learn  about  wildlife  and                                                                    
wildlife  management,   interacted  through  the   sales  of                                                                    
hunting  and fishing  licenses, participated  in the  boards                                                                    
and advisory committees,  and generally provided information                                                                    
to the  public at  the department's public  service counters                                                                    
across the state.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks discussed  slide 4:  "Alaska Department  of Fish                                                                    
and Game Organizational Chart."  He reported that there were                                                                    
six divisions  within the department and  the commissioner's                                                                    
office. The  divisions included  the Division  of Commercial                                                                    
Fisheries,  Division of  Sport  Fish,  Division of  Wildlife                                                                    
Conservation, Division of  Habitat, Division of Subsistence,                                                                    
and  the Division  of Administrative  Services. He  remarked                                                                    
that  the first  three  were the  largest  of the  divisions                                                                    
within  the department.  He noted  that the  department also                                                                    
had a  board support  section and two  independent agencies,                                                                    
the  Commercial Fisheries  Limited  Entry Commission  (CFEC)                                                                    
and the Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Trustee Council.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks pointed out the  staff in the audience. He stated                                                                    
that  Charlie Swanton  was formerly  the department's  Sport                                                                    
Fish Director  was now the Deputy  Commissioner handing much                                                                    
of  the  state's Pacific  Salmon  related  issues. Mr.  Tony                                                                    
DeGange was  the new  Director of  Habitat. The  new Special                                                                    
Assistant, Mr.  David Rodgers, would be  helping with issues                                                                    
having to  do with endangered  species. Mr. Bruce  Dale, the                                                                    
acting director  for the Division of  Wildlife Conservation,                                                                    
and Mr. Tom Brookover, the  acting Director for the Division                                                                    
of Sport Fish, both previously served as deputy directors.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  turned to  slide 5:  "Alaska Department  of Fish                                                                    
and  Game Regional  and  Area Offices."  He  relayed that  a                                                                    
mainstay of the management  programs was having offices near                                                                    
Alaskans.  The map  showed 30  permanent offices  around the                                                                    
state. There were numerous other  offices that were seasonal                                                                    
in nature such as field camps.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He  explained  that  he  would   run  through  each  of  the                                                                    
divisions  in the  next several  slides to  provide a  broad                                                                    
overview of the relative size of the department.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks reviewed slide 6: "Commissioner's Office":                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Commissioner Sam Cotten                                                                                                    
     Deputy Commissioner Kevin Brooks                                                                                           
     Deputy Commissioner Charlie Swanton                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     · 10 permanent full-time positions                                                                                         
     · $1,926.2 FY2016 Operating Request                                                                                        
     · $910.4 UGF Request                                                                                                       
     · 1% of ADF&G's Operating Budget                                                                                           
     · Provide support and policy direction to departmental                                                                     
        programs                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Brooks  explained   that  the   commissioner's  office                                                                    
provided  support  and  policy   direction  to  all  of  the                                                                    
department's  programs.  The  commissioner acted  as  an  ex                                                                    
officio of  the Board  of Fisheries and  the Board  of Game.                                                                    
The  position  also  sat on  the  North  Pacific  Management                                                                    
Fisheries Council (NMFS).                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  discussed  slide  7:  "Division  of  Commercial                                                                    
Fisheries":                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Director Jeff Regnart                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     · 308 permanent full-time positions                                                                                        
     · 433 permanent part-time/seasonal positions                                                                               
     · $71,341.7 FY2016 Operating Request                                                                                       
     · $44,239.8 UGF Request                                                                                                    
     · 33% of ADF&G's Operating Budget                                                                                          
     · Protect, maintain, and improve the fish, shellfish,                                                                      
        and aquatic plant resources of the state, consistent                                                                    
        with the sustained yield principle, for the maximum                                                                     
        benefit of the economy and the people of Alaska                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks   reported  that  the  Division   of  Commercial                                                                    
Fisheries was the department's largest.  The division was in                                                                    
charge  of  managing  all   commercial,  personal  use,  and                                                                    
substance  fisheries  in  state waters.  The  division  also                                                                    
managed shell fish and ground  fish species under delegation                                                                    
from the  federal government. It also  planned and permitted                                                                    
the  salmon   hatcheries  and  mariculture   operations  and                                                                    
provided support to the state's  efforts towards the Pacific                                                                    
Salmon treaty and Alaska Yukon  treaty efforts. The division                                                                    
represented  about  a  third  of  the  department's  overall                                                                    
budget. More importantly,  the Commercial Fisheries Division                                                                    
consumed about 60 percent of the department's GF dollars.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:52:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Brooks  presented   Slide  8:   "Ex-vessel  Value   of                                                                    
Commercial Harvests and Mari  culture Production in Alaska."                                                                    
He stated that one of  the ways the department monitored the                                                                    
Commercial Fisheries Division was  by watching the ex-vessel                                                                    
values as seen on the slide.  For the last several years the                                                                    
ex-vessel value had  been in excess of  $2 billion annually.                                                                    
It was  an indicator of fishermen's  participation and their                                                                    
success in making a living from the resources.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks advanced to slide  9: "Escapement Goal Achieved."                                                                    
He  specified  that  the  chart  was  an  indicator  of  the                                                                    
division's  performance. Measuring  escapement  goals was  a                                                                    
key point  of the  division's management program.  The state                                                                    
had 296 escapement goals around  the state on various salmon                                                                    
stocks.  The division  targeted  meeting 80  percent of  the                                                                    
goals.  He  explained  that  the state  had  never  met  100                                                                    
percent  of its  goals most  likely due  to week  stocks and                                                                    
sometimes because of weather  preventing aerial surveys from                                                                    
happening or  a flood  or high  water event  occurring which                                                                    
prevent the  state from enumerating  fish. He  remarked that                                                                    
80 percent was an aggressive  target which had been in place                                                                    
over  the  previous  several  years. It  was  a  target  the                                                                    
division strived to achieve.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks advanced to slide 10: "Division of Sport Fish":                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Acting Director Tom Brookover                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     · 200 permanent full-time positions                                                                                        
     · 176 permanent part-time/seasonal positions                                                                               
     · $48,522.0 FY2016 Operating Request                                                                                       
     · $6,307.5 UGF Request                                                                                                     
     · 23% of ADF&G's Operating Budget                                                                                          
     · Protect and improve the state's recreational                                                                             
        fisheries resources                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks   informed  the  committee  that   the  division                                                                    
accounted  for about  a quarter  of the  departments overall                                                                    
budget. Its  budget was  just under  $50 million.  Only $6.3                                                                    
billion  came out  of the  undesignated general  fund (UGF).                                                                    
The division  was primarily funded through  federal receipts                                                                    
as  well as  DFG  revenues  from the  sale  of licenses.  He                                                                    
reviewed that  the Sport Fish  Division was  responsible for                                                                    
the management  of Alaska  sport fisheries  as well  as many                                                                    
personal use  fisheries and  some subsistence  fisheries not                                                                    
managed by  the Commercial Fisheries Division.  The division                                                                    
also  ran  the  state's  two hatcheries,  the  William  Jack                                                                    
Hernandez  Sport Fish  Hatchery  in Anchorage  and the  Ruth                                                                    
Burnett  Sport Fish  Hatchery in  Fairbanks. The  Sport Fish                                                                    
Division  maintained  boater  and angler  access  for  sport                                                                    
fishing   and  recreational   opportunities   and  was   the                                                                    
department lead on invasive species.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  continued  with slide  11:  "Sales  of  Fishing                                                                    
Licenses." He cited that one  of the indicators the division                                                                    
paid  attention  to  was  the license  sales.  They  were  a                                                                    
reflection  of  angler  participation.   If  the  state  was                                                                    
selling  licenses,   folks  wanted   to  get  to   fish.  He                                                                    
elaborated  that  with the  challenges  the  state had  with                                                                    
Chinook stocks over the previous  few years the sale of King                                                                    
Salmon  stamps  had  decreased   due  to  folks  having  low                                                                    
expectations  in catching  Chinook. Fishers  refocused their                                                                    
efforts on Coho or other  species. The division had its high                                                                    
water  mark in  2008 where  the  state sold  just under  500                                                                    
thousand licenses. He  reported an uptick in  sales over the                                                                    
prior two years.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:56:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks   revealed  slide  12:  "Division   of  Wildlife                                                                    
Conservation":                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Acting Director Bruce Dale                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     · 217 permanent full-time positions                                                                                        
     · 53 permanent part-time/seasonal positions                                                                                
     · $49,203.1 FY2016 Operating Request                                                                                       
     · $6,529.3 UGF Request                                                                                                     
     · 23% of ADF&G's Operating Budget                                                                                          
     · Conserve and enhance Alaska's wildlife and habitats                                                                      
        and provide for a wide range of public uses and                                                                         
        benefits                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  stated  that  the  division  was  charged  with                                                                    
collecting  scientifically  sound information  and  managing                                                                    
wildlife  populations  in  Alaska. The  division  maintained                                                                    
habitat  on state  lands capable  of  sustaining robust  and                                                                    
well   distributed   wildlife   populations.  One   of   the                                                                    
division's   key  roles   was  increasing   lower  declining                                                                    
ungulate  populations   through  its   intensive  management                                                                    
programs. The  division also ran through  shooting ranges in                                                                    
Anchorage, Fairbanks, and Juneau.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative    Gattis    asked    about    the    current                                                                    
administration's position  on intensive management  in terms                                                                    
of perpetuating and enriching it.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Cotton  responded  that the  department                                                                    
did not intend  to make any significant  changes. There were                                                                    
funds  available  through  previous  capital  appropriations                                                                    
that  allowed the  division to  maintain its  functions. The                                                                    
department  was  attempting  to be  cost-conscious  but  the                                                                    
commissioner   did  not   foresee  any   major  changes   in                                                                    
direction.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gattis  spoke  of   some  areas  within  her                                                                    
district that people were unable  to reach in order to carry                                                                    
out predator  control. She  wondered if  there would  be any                                                                    
change. Acting  Commissioner Cotton suggested that  he could                                                                    
provide her with additional  information but reiterated that                                                                    
there would not be any major changes in direction.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  turned  to  slide 13:  "Sales  of  Hunting  and                                                                    
Trapping  Licenses."  He  reported  that  similar  to  sport                                                                    
fishing  license sales  the sales  of  hunting and  trapping                                                                    
licenses  was a  reflection of  hunter participation  in the                                                                    
harvest of the state's wildlife  resources. There had been a                                                                    
slight uptake  in the  license sales  over the  previous two                                                                    
years.  He  surmised  that  it  was  a  result  of  people's                                                                    
expectations of  going out to  harvest an animal and  to put                                                                    
food in their freezers.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks relayed  that he would turn to  the three smaller                                                                    
divisions within the Department of Fish and Game.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks advanced to slide 14: "Division of Subsistence":                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Director Hazel Nelson                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     · 29 permanent full-time positions                                                                                         
     · 23 permanent part-time/seasonal positions                                                                                
     · $7,728.2 FY2015 Operating Request                                                                                        
     · $3,106.4 UGF Request                                                                                                     
     · 4% ADF&G's Operating Budget                                                                                              
     · Scientifically    quantify,   evaluate   and   report                                                                    
        information about customary and traditional uses of                                                                     
        Alaska's fish and wildlife resources                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks reported  that the  budget for  the Division  of                                                                    
Subsistence consisted  of about $7.7 million  total and $3.1                                                                    
million in UGF. The  division's budget equaled approximately                                                                    
4  percent  of  the  department's budget.  The  Division  of                                                                    
Subsistence   was  tasked   with  compiling   and  analyzing                                                                    
subsistence  harvest  information. Its  employees  conducted                                                                    
research to  gather information on  the role of  hunting and                                                                    
fishing by Alaskans for customary  and traditional uses. The                                                                    
information was  used to  inform the  public and  assist the                                                                    
Board of Fish and Board  of Game in making determinations on                                                                    
amounts necessary for subsistence.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks   advanced  to   slide  15:   "Management  Plans                                                                    
Incorporating  Subsistence  Information." He  reported  that                                                                    
one of the ways the division  was measured was to review the                                                                    
management  plans  for  both fish  and  game.  The  division                                                                    
monitored the  number of plans that  subsistence contributed                                                                    
to developing.  In the previous  two years there had  been a                                                                    
refocused  effort in  contributing to  management plans.  In                                                                    
2014  the division  had contributed  to  over 50  management                                                                    
plans with  the subsistence harvest information  used by the                                                                    
boards.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:59:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks moved to slide 16: "Division of Habitat":                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Director Tony DeGange                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     · 47 permanent full-time positions                                                                                         
     · 3 permanent part-time/seasonal positions                                                                                 
     · $6,841.9 FY2016 Operating Request                                                                                        
     · $4,236.9 UGF Request                                                                                                     
     · 3% of ADF&G's Operating Budget                                                                                           
     · Protect Alaska's valuable fish and wildlife                                                                              
        resources and their habitats as Alaska's population                                                                     
        and economy continue to expand                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  acknowledged the new  director of  the division,                                                                    
Mr. Tony DeGange. He indicated  that the Division of Halibut                                                                    
was another of the smaller  divisions in the department. The                                                                    
amount  of total  operating funds  for the  division equaled                                                                    
$6.8 million, $4.2  million in UGF. The  division's role was                                                                    
to review  applications and issue permits  for activities in                                                                    
fish-bearing  water  bodies   and  legislatively  designated                                                                    
special areas.  It was also  responsible for  monitoring and                                                                    
authorizing development  projects and  conducting compliance                                                                    
actions.   Primarily,  he   was  speaking   of  successfully                                                                    
permitting  development operations  that would  provide jobs                                                                    
for  Alaskans but  also  would not  harm  critical fish  and                                                                    
wildlife habitat that was necessary for Alaskans to enjoy.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman asked members to  hold their questions until                                                                    
the end of the presentation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  discussed slide 17: "Number  of Permits Issued."                                                                    
He  stated  that one  of  the  things  the division  did  in                                                                    
monitoring  activity was  to review  the  number of  permits                                                                    
issued. He pointed  out that in the prior  three years there                                                                    
had been  over 4 thousand permits  issued. More importantly,                                                                    
the division had only had  to take 14 non-compliance actions                                                                    
in  the previous  year. In  the instance  of non-compliance,                                                                    
the division  worked with  a developer  or an  individual on                                                                    
whatever  items  needed to  be  brought  into compliance  to                                                                    
protect fish and wildlife habitat.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks advance to slide  18: "Division of Administrative                                                                    
Services":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Director Sunny Haight                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     · 73 permanent full-time positions                                                                                         
     · 11 permanent part-time/seasonal positions                                                                                
     · $12,701.0 FY2016 Operating Request                                                                                       
     · $3,169.4 UGF Request                                                                                                     
     · 6% of ADF&G's Operating Budget                                                                                           
     · Provides routine administrative services for the                                                                         
        department and coordinates development of the annual                                                                    
        operating and capital budget                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  relayed  that the  Division  of  Administrative                                                                    
services  provided the  primary  functions in  the areas  of                                                                    
accounting,   budget,  human   resources,  and   information                                                                    
technologies as well  as general support. One  of the things                                                                    
unique to the department was  the administration of its fish                                                                    
and game  licensing program. The department  sold nearly 800                                                                    
thousand pieces of stock annually  and generated $25 million                                                                    
of  revenue for  the fish  and game  fund to  help fund  the                                                                    
department's  programs and  support fish  and wildlife.  The                                                                    
division comprised about 6 percent  of the overall budget of                                                                    
the department and just under $3.2 million in UGF.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He moved to slide 19: "Board Support Section":                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Board of Fish Executive Director Glenn Haight                                                                              
     Board of Game Executive Director Kristy Tibbles                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
        · 6 permanent full-time positions                                                                                       
        · 5 permanent part-time/seasonal positions                                                                              
        · $1,983.5 FY2015 Operating Request                                                                                     
        · $1,512.7 UGF Request                                                                                                  
        · 1% of ADF&G's Operating Budget                                                                                        
        · Ensures that the public process for the state's                                                                       
          fish and wildlife regulatory system operates                                                                          
          efficiently and effectively                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks affirmed  that the  Boards  Support Section  was                                                                    
small but  critical and  totaled $1.5 million  in UGF  and 1                                                                    
percent of Department  of Fish and Game's  total budget. The                                                                    
section played a critical role  in helping the Board of Fish                                                                    
and the  Board of Game  to meet as  well as the  84 advisory                                                                    
committees around  the state. He  reported that in  2014 the                                                                    
Board of  Fish met  for 36 meeting  days and  considered 377                                                                    
proposals.  The  Board  of  Game had  20  meeting  days  and                                                                    
considered 180 proposals. He added  that the joint board met                                                                    
for 5 meeting days and considered 41 proposals.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He discussed slide 20: "Independent Agencies":                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Commercial Fisheries Entry Commission                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          · 28 permanent full-time positions                                                                                    
          · 3 permanent part-time/seasonal positions                                                                            
          · $4,593.6 FY2016 Operating Request                                                                                   
          · $0 UGF Request                                                                                                      
          · 2% of ADF&G's Operating Budget                                                                                      
          · Controls    entry   into   Alaska's   commercial                                                                    
             fisheries to promote conservation of Alaska's                                                                      
             fishery resources and economic health of                                                                           
             commercial fishing                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Exxon Valdez Oil Spill Trustee Council                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
          · 4 permanent full-time positions                                                                                     
          · $2,503.5 FY2016 Operating Request                                                                                   
          · $0 UGF Request                                                                                                      
          · 1% of ADF&G's Operating Budget                                                                                      
          · Works toward restoring the environment injured                                                                      
             by the Exxon Valdez oil spill  to a healthy and                                                                    
             productive ecosystem, while taking into account                                                                    
             the importance and quality of life and the need                                                                    
             for  viable  opportunities  to   establish  and                                                                    
             sustain a reasonable standard of living                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks reported  that CFEC had zero  UGF. The commission                                                                    
generated its revenue  from the sale of  vessel licenses and                                                                    
permits in  the amount  of $4.6 million  which equated  to 2                                                                    
percent of DFG's  total budget. He continued  that the Exxon                                                                    
Valdez  Oil Spill  Trustee Council  was  a small  monitoring                                                                    
unit  currently.  The  council  has  a  staff  of  four,  an                                                                    
operating  budget of  $2.5 million,  and  zero UGF.  Neither                                                                    
entities  reported to  the commissioner.  Instead they  were                                                                    
housed within DFG for budgeting and reporting.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:03:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  discussed slide 21:  "FY2016 Budget  By Division                                                                    
and  Funding Source  ($214,975.5)."  He  explained that  the                                                                    
department's  FY  16 endorsed  budget  was  just under  $215                                                                    
million. The  two pie  charts were  broken down  by division                                                                    
and by  fund source.  The three large  divisions, Commercial                                                                    
Fisheries,  Sport Fish,  and  Fish  and Wildlife,  comprised                                                                    
about 80 percent  of DFG's budget. The  other divisions were                                                                    
the  smaller  pieces  in  the   pie.  He  directed  members'                                                                    
attention to  the pie chart by  fund source. The GF  made up                                                                    
about 40 percent of the  total budget. Federal funds equaled                                                                    
about 31  percent and Fish  and Game funds were  11 percent,                                                                    
and  the remaining  18  percent consisted  of  a variety  of                                                                    
other smaller funding sources.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.   Brooks  reported   on  slide   22:  "FY2016   Budgeted                                                                    
Positions."  He  relayed  that  the  department's  workforce                                                                    
consisted  of 922  full-time  positions  and 1683  positions                                                                    
total.  During the  seasonal  months  the department  nearly                                                                    
doubled its workforce. A majority  of the seasonal positions                                                                    
were in the three larger divisions within the department.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  advanced to slide  23: "FY2016  Operating Budget                                                                    
by RDU Department  of Fish and Game:  FY2015 Management Plan                                                                    
to FY2016  Adjusted Base Comparison." He  explained that the                                                                    
slide showed  the FY 15  management plan compared to  the FY                                                                    
16  adjusted  base by  RDU's  [Results  Delivery Unit].  The                                                                    
differences in  the budget were  cost of  living adjustments                                                                    
from  labor  contracts. He  noted  a  health insurance  rate                                                                    
reduction  determined by  Department  of Administration  and                                                                    
distributed to all agencies. He  pointed out the reversal of                                                                    
three   temporary  increments   added  by   the  legislature                                                                    
previously.  They were  scheduled  to end  after  FY 15  and                                                                    
totaled  $810  thousand. They  were  depicted  on the  slide                                                                    
under the reversal of multiple one-time appropriations.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  discussed slide 24: "FY2016  Operating Budget by                                                                    
RDU Department  of Fish  and Game:  FY2016 Adjusted  Base to                                                                    
Governor Endorsed  Budget Comparison."  He relayed  that the                                                                    
slide showed the FY 16 adjusted  base and the FY 16 governor                                                                    
endorsed  budget.   He  reviewed   the  main   changes.  The                                                                    
department  proposed  a  $7.3  million  UGF  reduction.  The                                                                    
decrement  encompassed a  multitude  of division  decreases.                                                                    
There  were also  some  fund source  changes  that he  would                                                                    
discuss in detail in the  subcommittee process. He indicated                                                                    
he had  a more  comprehensive slide  he would  review before                                                                    
the end of his presentation.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks slide  25: "Department of Fish &  Game's Share of                                                                    
Total Agency  Operations (GF  Only)($ Thousands)."  He noted                                                                    
that  the  following  three slides  were  generated  by  the                                                                    
Legislative   Finance  Division   and  provided   a  10-year                                                                    
lookback. Department  of Fish  and Game  had grown  over the                                                                    
previous decade. He reported seeing  a decrease in growth in                                                                    
the prior  two years. However,  throughout the 10  years the                                                                    
department's share of the  overall agencies' budget remained                                                                    
steady at a range of 1.6  percent to 1.7 percent. It equaled                                                                    
1.67 percent in the FY 16 request.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks talked  about slide  26: "Appropriations  within                                                                    
the Department of  Fish & Game (GF Only)  ($ Thousands)." He                                                                    
conveyed that  the slide broke  out the 10-year  lookback by                                                                    
division.  He  pointed  out that  the  Commercial  Fisheries                                                                    
Division, represented  by the  blue line at  the top  of the                                                                    
graph, dominated the GF discussion.  He noted the cluster of                                                                    
all other  DFG divisions  near the bottom  of the  graph. He                                                                    
also drew  attention to  the downturn in  GF budgets  in the                                                                    
most recent 2 years.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  explained slide  27: "Appropriations  within the                                                                    
Department of  Fish &  Game (All  Funds) ($  Thousands)." He                                                                    
remarked  that the  graph depicted  "All  Funds". The  chart                                                                    
reflected the federal  funds and the Fish and  Game funds as                                                                    
well as  the GF in the  budget. Both of the  budgets for the                                                                    
Sport Fish  Division and the Wildlife  Conservation Division                                                                    
were  about $50  million  dollars each,  and the  Commercial                                                                    
Fisheries Division budget was in  the $70 million range. The                                                                    
remaining divisions were relatively small in comparison.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:07:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  advanced to slide 28:  "Major Accomplishments in                                                                    
2014":                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     · Commercial Salmon Harvest                                                                                                
     · Intensive Management                                                                                                     
     · Endangered Species                                                                                                       
     · Wood Bison Restoration                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  reported that the  department had a  strong year                                                                    
in 2014.  He affirmed  the strong commercial  salmon fishery                                                                    
harvest  totaling  156.7  million fish  with  a  preliminary                                                                    
value of  $ $576  million. The  largest component  came from                                                                    
Bristol Bay.  There was  also a  strong chum  salmon harvest                                                                    
from  Kotzebue.  He  furthered it  was  the  second  largest                                                                    
harvest  on record  with 677  thousand  chums harvested.  He                                                                    
referred   back   to   the  question   regarding   intensive                                                                    
management. He  specified that the department  was currently                                                                    
implementing   intensive   management  programs   aimed   at                                                                    
increasing  caribou and  moose numbers  in portions  of game                                                                    
management units 9, 12, 13, 15,  16, 17, 19, 20, 24, and 25.                                                                    
The department  was active around the  state. The department                                                                    
was pursuing  intensive management programs in  areas within                                                                    
the  game management  units, rather  than throughout  entire                                                                    
units that need  it and that were approved by  the board. He                                                                    
also  mentioned  a  reintroduction  of  wood  bison  in  the                                                                    
following  2  months.  The   department  has  practiced  due                                                                    
diligence in terms  of the endangered species  act. The wood                                                                    
bison population was  considered an experimental population.                                                                    
The  animals  would be  released  on  the landscape  in  the                                                                    
following March.  The department had the  associated funding                                                                    
for their reintroduction.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks pointed out slide 29: "Issues and Challenges":                                                                       
     ·                                                                                                                          
        Chinook Salmon Fisheries                                                                                                
     · Endangered Species and the State's Right to Manage                                                                       
     · Fish and Game Fund Pressure                                                                                              
     · Federal Funding                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  spoke about the  low abundance of  Chinook which                                                                    
had been  well documented. It  had prompted the  closure and                                                                    
restrictions necessary  for conservation that resulted  in a                                                                    
burden on  Alaskans reliant on  the Chinook stocks  for food                                                                    
and income.  The department had  initiated a  Chinook salmon                                                                    
research initiative  and received  some questions  about its                                                                    
status. Over the prior 2  years the legislature appropriated                                                                    
$7.5 million  in 2013 and  2014 sessions for  the department                                                                    
to  pursue  the initiative,  a  $30  million initiative.  He                                                                    
conveyed to the department's  managers that they should only                                                                    
count on the  money that the department  had. The department                                                                    
recognized the  fiscal climate. There was  enough funding to                                                                    
complete some  good work and  to fill some of  the knowledge                                                                    
gaps  identified  at  the  onset   of  the  initiative.  The                                                                    
department   identified   12   indicator  stocks   for   the                                                                    
initiative that  stretched from Southeast to  the Yukon. The                                                                    
department  was  likely  going   to  reduce  the  number  of                                                                    
indicator stocks  and focus  more on  the adult  work rather                                                                    
than  juvenile work  using  about half  of  the funding.  He                                                                    
relayed  that juvenile  work was  very costly.  He mentioned                                                                    
that  he had  some  of  the project  managers  working on  a                                                                    
proposal to get the best  information at the best value with                                                                    
the money that had  been appropriated. The information would                                                                    
be reported back  to the legislature at some  point. He also                                                                    
reported doing  the final edits  of the second issue  of the                                                                    
Department's Chinook  News which  provided a  current update                                                                    
on the  work that had  been done regarding the  12 indicator                                                                    
stocks. The first issue came  out in 2014 in newspaper form.                                                                    
He remarked  that the commissioner  had been working  on the                                                                    
issue  of Chinook  salmon fisheries  with the  North Pacific                                                                    
Fisheries Management Council (NPFMC).                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Acting   Commissioner  Cotton   responded  that   NPFMC  had                                                                    
jurisdiction over the Bering Sea  among other federal waters                                                                    
in Alaska.  Recently the department had  advanced a proposal                                                                    
in which he  expected to take final action  in the following                                                                    
April to reduce the limits  on Chinook salmon bycatch in the                                                                    
Bering Sea. It was significant  because of the low abundance                                                                    
situation on  Alaska's Western rivers.  It would be  a large                                                                    
reduction in  the overall limit.  It had been  a hard-fought                                                                    
battle but Alaska was currently  in a position to accomplish                                                                    
the  reduction. A  huge percent  of the  Bering Seas  stocks                                                                    
were Alaska  fish. Some Chinook  salmon seen in  other parts                                                                    
of Alaska  were not  necessarily Alaska  fish. He  felt like                                                                    
there  had been  some success  and hoped  to finalize  it in                                                                    
April.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman asked  if there  were enough  votes. Acting                                                                    
Commissioner Cotton thought so. He  added that there were 11                                                                    
votes on the council, 6 were Alaskan.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:13:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  continued to  address slide  29. He  pointed out                                                                    
that the  department relied heavily  on federal  funding; it                                                                    
was 30 percent  of the department's overall  budget. In many                                                                    
areas the funding was flat  or declining. However, there was                                                                    
one  area  he  wanted to  highlight.  The  Pittman-Robertson                                                                    
Wildlife  Restoration  funds   underwrote  the  Division  of                                                                    
Wildlife  Conservation.  He  explained  that  the  fund  was                                                                    
derived  from excise  taxes on  guns and  ammunition at  the                                                                    
national level.  It was dedicated  and allocated out  to the                                                                    
50 states based on size  and population. Alaska received a 5                                                                    
percent  allocation  of funds.  The  fund  has been  growing                                                                    
dramatically for  several years  and was reflective  of guns                                                                    
and  ammunition  sales  in  the   nation.  The  Division  of                                                                    
Wildlife Conservation  was challenged  due to the  fact that                                                                    
the funds required a 3-to-1  match, $3 federal dollars to $1                                                                    
state  dollar. The  department typically  used its  Fish and                                                                    
Game funds and monies from  GF to match the federal dollars.                                                                    
The Fish and Game funding has  been flat but has been on the                                                                    
rise for  the previous 2  years. There had been  an increase                                                                    
of about  $900 thousand in  2014 over 2013. He  continued to                                                                    
explain that it  was out of $25 million  total. He commented                                                                    
that  it had  been nice  to see  the increase.  Much of  the                                                                    
revenue  was derived  from non-resident  sales. Many  people                                                                    
visited Alaska  to hunt  and fish.  As the  national economy                                                                    
was  improving,   Alaska  was   seeing  more   visitors  and                                                                    
additional  non-resident   sales.  He  reiterated   that  it                                                                    
remained a  challenge to  match federal  funding and  to put                                                                    
sound  projects  in  the field  that  would  provide  useful                                                                    
information for managers.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman commented  that  the  legislature would  be                                                                    
working diligently to  make sure the state  had match funds.                                                                    
Mr. Brooks clarified  that it was one  program where federal                                                                    
funds were not diminishing, atypical of the current trend.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks pointed  to slide  30: "Highlights  in Operating                                                                    
Budget  for FY2016."  He reported  that  the department  was                                                                    
requesting  $7.3  million  less  in   UGF  for  FY  16.  The                                                                    
department was  proposing some revenue offsets  including $3                                                                    
million  in receipts  from  the  Commercial Fishing  Limited                                                                    
Entry Commission  that would replace  UGF in the  budget for                                                                    
the  Division of  Commercial  Fisheries.  The receipts  were                                                                    
derived from  the sale of  vessel licenses a1nd  permits and                                                                    
were tied  to the  industry. The  department thought  it was                                                                    
the prudent thing  to do. The agency  generated between $7.5                                                                    
million to $8  million in revenue and had a  budget of about                                                                    
$4  million.   The  excess  revenue   would  be   useful  in                                                                    
offsetting cuts  to the  Commercial Fisheries  Division that                                                                    
would otherwise  result in reductions to  programs important                                                                    
to  commercial  fishermen.   The  department  was  proposing                                                                    
another offset which  was to replace $1.2 million  in UGF in                                                                    
the  Division of  Wildlife Conservation  with federal  funds                                                                    
from the Pittman-Robertson fund.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman interjected that  Co-Chair Thompson would be                                                                    
leaving the meeting early and had a question.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:17:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-chair   Thompson  asked   that  the   department  provide                                                                    
recommendations  for  generating  revenue. H  asserted  that                                                                    
fishing  license fees  had not  been  increased for  several                                                                    
years. He  thought that  there were  many reduced  fees that                                                                    
had been in  place since the 70's. He wanted  to revisit fee                                                                    
structures to generate additional  monies due to the current                                                                    
fiscal situation. Acting  Commissioner Cotton responded that                                                                    
Co-Chair Thompson  was correct  that a hunting  license cost                                                                    
$25 which was a bargain  in comparison to many other states.                                                                    
The department did not charge  for game tags but many states                                                                    
did. He was encouraged by  many outdoor groups promoting the                                                                    
idea of  increased fees. It  was an opportunity to  face the                                                                    
budget  situations  with  a  "pay-as-you-go"  approach.  His                                                                    
staff had  put together some spreadsheets  showing different                                                                    
options  and different  revenue results  from those  options                                                                    
which he would be happy to share with the committee.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman remarked that  perhaps Co-Chair Thompson was                                                                    
encouraging the department to take the lead.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks returned to slide  30. He indicated that the next                                                                    
part of reaching  the $7.3 million UGF  reduction was direct                                                                    
cuts to  divisions. The  Commercial Fisheries  Division made                                                                    
up to  60 percent of  the department's GF. He  reported that                                                                    
reductions were  spread to all  of the divisions  within the                                                                    
department.  He discussed  that when  DFG added  projects it                                                                    
also  added precision  to its  management.  He provided  the                                                                    
example  of  running a  Chinook  weir  and extending  it  to                                                                    
include counting Coho.  The department would add  weeks to a                                                                    
season  trying to  enumerate better  and ultimately  getting                                                                    
better  data  resulting  in   more  precise  management  and                                                                    
greater  opportunity  for  fishermen   or  anglers.  As  the                                                                    
department scaled  back it  might be  replacing a  weir with                                                                    
aerial surveys,  a method that  was less precise and  not as                                                                    
detailed.  The public  is  effected by  not  having as  much                                                                    
opportunity.  The department  tried  to  manage for  optimum                                                                    
opportunity, however, it had to  protect the stocks creating                                                                    
tension  in   the  budget.  As  the   department  looked  at                                                                    
reductions,  provided specifically  in  the  form of  change                                                                    
records, it  would identify specific projects  such as sonar                                                                    
and weir projects that the  department would be proposing to                                                                    
reduce or eliminate.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:21:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  mentioned  that there  had  been  6  additional                                                                    
temporary  increments that  had been  added over  the years.                                                                    
They were  scheduled to expire  after 2016, 2017,  and 2018.                                                                    
The department would be proposing to  end them at the end of                                                                    
2015 and not  continue them which would  total $1.2 million.                                                                    
He  would be  discussing the  large pieces  of the  $7.3 UGF                                                                    
reduction in more detail in the subcommittee process.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks advance  to slide  31: "FY2016  Capital Projects                                                                    
Request":                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Projects and Initiatives                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     · Wildlife Management, Research and Hunting Access:                                                                        
        $11,250.0 Federal, $500.0 GFM                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Recurring Capital Projects                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     · Sport Fish Recreational Boating Access: $2,250.0                                                                         
        Federal, $750.0 GF                                                                                                      
     · Shooting Range Deferred Maintenance: $375.0 Federal,                                                                     
        $125.0 F and GF                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  commented that although  he had  been presenting                                                                    
the  department's  operating  overview, the  department  had                                                                    
three small capital projects reflected  on the last slide of                                                                    
his  presentation.  The  first  was a  cluster  of  wildlife                                                                    
management, research,  and hunting access  projects totaling                                                                    
$11.2  million in  federal dollars  using the  spike in  the                                                                    
Pittman-Robertson  fund so  it did  not revert  back to  the                                                                    
federal government.  If the money  went back to  the federal                                                                    
government it  would be spent somewhere  else or reallocated                                                                    
to another  state. Department  of Fish and  Game had  a $500                                                                    
thousand match in  GF. In straight proportion  it would take                                                                    
$3.7 million to match $11.2.  He relayed that the department                                                                    
was  under-matched  and  would  be  looking  diligently  for                                                                    
partners on many of the  projects. The department was trying                                                                    
to get  the authority on  the books  in order to  pursue the                                                                    
effort.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks continued  that the  department had  2 recurring                                                                    
capital projects  including boater  access in the  amount of                                                                    
$3  million  using  the  majority   of  federal  funds,  and                                                                    
shooting range  deferred maintenance for $500  thousand none                                                                    
of which  were GF. He  concluded DFG's presentation  and was                                                                    
happy to answer questions from committee members.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:23:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman congratulated  former  Sport Fish  Division                                                                    
Director, Mr. Charlie Swanton, on  his appointment to Deputy                                                                    
Commissioner  within DFG.  He  mentioned  hearing about  the                                                                    
effects  of  some  federal   regulations  that  would  allow                                                                    
subsistence  fishing  on  the  Kenai  River.  He  asked  Mr.                                                                    
Swanton about the potential effects on the fishery.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHARLES  SWANTON, DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF  FISH                                                                    
AND   GAME,  responded   that   the   effects  of   allowing                                                                    
subsistence  would  play  out  over  the  following  several                                                                    
months.  He was  unsure of  the future  outcome but  thought                                                                    
that  department  staff  had weighed  in  with  the  federal                                                                    
subsistence board about concerns  they had. He remarked that                                                                    
in some  people's minds the  information was  solidly heard.                                                                    
He could not predict the outcome, however.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman clarified  that he meant the  outcome of the                                                                    
fishery. He asked if it was damaging to the fishery.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanton  remarked that the  specifics of  the particular                                                                    
proposal that was passed had a  series of answers to some of                                                                    
the questions.  His understanding  was that the  users would                                                                    
submit an  operation plan  to the  federal manager,  who had                                                                    
not been determined  at present. For the  sake of discussion                                                                    
it would likely be the refuge  manager, as in other areas of                                                                    
the state.  The refuge  manager and  staff would  review the                                                                    
operational  plan  which  would  stipulate  such  things  as                                                                    
species, gear,  location, time, and  limits in terms  of how                                                                    
much  of each  species  could be  harvested.  The things  he                                                                    
mentioned had not been determined.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cotton added  that DFG had been  working on the                                                                    
issue. Representative  Gara had been very  interested in the                                                                    
issue as well as others.  He thought the deputy commissioner                                                                    
had  outlined   the  procedure   well.  He   was  definitely                                                                    
concerned about  the effect on  King Salmon and  other sport                                                                    
fish  including Rainbow  Trout and  Dolly Varden  Trout, The                                                                    
nets were indiscriminately nets.  Many of the decisions that                                                                    
would be  made would  have a  specific determination  on the                                                                    
effects.  He  expressed his  surprise  about  the issue  and                                                                    
relayed that  there were  4 federal  agencies that  voted on                                                                    
the issue. Typically  they had opposed the issue  and in the                                                                    
case  of the  most  recent vote  the  National Park  Service                                                                    
votes  yes  catching most  people  off  guard. He  was  very                                                                    
interested in pursuing the issue further.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:27:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Munoz   asked   about   the   environmental                                                                    
compliance functions  within the Habitat Division  and asked                                                                    
about  the  staff  time designated  to  those  efforts.  She                                                                    
offered that  he did not  have to respond but  could provide                                                                    
her with  the information at  a later time. She  also wanted                                                                    
to know if  the function had grown over the  previous 3 to 5                                                                    
years.  If  so, she  wondered  if  it  was a  function  that                                                                    
traditionally had been handled by  the private sector. If it                                                                    
was the  case, she  asked why the  state had  not encouraged                                                                    
more  private   activity  in   the  area   of  environmental                                                                    
compliance of development projects.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cotton asked for clarity about her questions.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz  responded  that  within  the  Habitat                                                                    
Division the  function had grown  over time. It was  also an                                                                    
area  that had  been  traditionally handled  by the  private                                                                    
sector. She  asked about quantifying  staff time.  Also, she                                                                    
wondered if it was something  that could be handled properly                                                                    
in the private sector.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  suggested that  a  significant  portion of  the                                                                    
Habitat  budget  was soft  money  or  program receipts.  The                                                                    
department worked with Kensington  Mine or Greens Creek Mine                                                                    
in Southeast  Alaska. His staff collaborated  with the mines                                                                    
it was  an area but they  were paying for the  remedial work                                                                    
or  some  of  the  environmental assessment  work  that  the                                                                    
department  was  leveraging  dollars form  industry  to  the                                                                    
extent possible. It  was a significant share  of the habitat                                                                    
budget aside  from the  GF they  received. He  would provide                                                                    
the information Representative Munoz was looking for.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:30:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  asked Mr. Brooks  to include the  impact of                                                                    
privatizing some of the types  of work such as seismographic                                                                    
work  into the  study  on  the effects  of  the state  doing                                                                    
things in-house or privatizing some  of the work. Mr. Brooks                                                                    
said that he would do so.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  mentioned  that  the  legislature  had                                                                    
worked on  trying to find  the answer to the  declining runs                                                                    
of  King Salmon.  It was  great news  to hear  bycatch would                                                                    
become  limited. The  current study  that had  received much                                                                    
support from  the legislature affected people  in almost all                                                                    
of the  legislative districts. It  affected rivers  from the                                                                    
north  to the  south. People  were unable  to fish  for King                                                                    
Salmon on  the Kenai or  the Yukon  or the Kuskokwim  in the                                                                    
current year. He understood the  fiscal pressure, however he                                                                    
expressed concerns  about affecting  the King  Salmon study.                                                                    
He asked  what information would  no longer be  available if                                                                    
the study ceased.  He also suggested funding the  study on a                                                                    
tapered  down basis.  For example,  25 percent  less of  the                                                                    
funding could  be spent  on the study  in the  current year,                                                                    
and imposing additional  reductions of 25 percent  for the 2                                                                    
subsequent years which would extend  the study over a longer                                                                    
period but would cost less to the GF annually.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Cotton  replied  that  the King  Salmon                                                                    
study was a  very high priority for DFG and  for many people                                                                    
in  Alaska.  He referred  to  Mr.  Brooks previous  comments                                                                    
about  doing  meaningful  work  with  reduced  funding.  Mr.                                                                    
Brooks spoke about  the 12 indicator systems  of which fewer                                                                    
systems  might have  to be  used.  He asked  Mr. Swanton  to                                                                    
comment.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara   clarified  that  what  he   meant  by                                                                    
tapering down was  completing the study but doing  it over a                                                                    
longer  period of  time  with a  declining  amount of  money                                                                    
being spent annually.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Cotton  asked  Representative Gara  for                                                                    
clarity about whether the department  would receive the full                                                                    
funding for a $30 million project.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  responded affirmatively and  added that                                                                    
it would be  over a longer period of time  and tapering down                                                                    
amounts annually.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Acting Commissioner Cotton expressed  his concerns about the                                                                    
certainty of receiving  the full funding. He felt  it was an                                                                    
obvious concern.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Swanton  added that the  department had  already started                                                                    
looking  at  scaling  the  study  down  in  terms  of  fewer                                                                    
indicator stocks  and in  some cases  completely eliminating                                                                    
the   juvenile  work.   Although  the   juvenile  work   was                                                                    
important,  it  added an  element  that  the state  did  not                                                                    
necessarily have  on a statewide  basis. The  department had                                                                    
taken a  look at the  issue in the  context of how  it could                                                                    
still  collect  some of  the  information.  In essence,  the                                                                    
juvenile  work  provided  a picture  of  ocean  survival,  a                                                                    
picture the state did not have.  In other words, there was a                                                                    
data gap  from the  time the smolts  left fresh  water until                                                                    
the time  they returned as  adults. It was  the department's                                                                    
belief  that  the  first  year   of  ocean  survival  was  a                                                                    
bottleneck. Going  forward the department wanted  to use the                                                                    
funding  to  focus  on  enumerating  and  getting  the  best                                                                    
escapement information  for adult salmon in  certain problem                                                                    
areas like the  Yukon and Kuskokwim. Juvenile  work would be                                                                    
set aside  due to  the fact  that it  had to  be done  for a                                                                    
lengthy  period of  time. It  took  about 5  years prior  to                                                                    
getting  the first  data  point of  the  juvenile work  back                                                                    
waiting  for  the  juveniles  to  return  as  adults  before                                                                    
collecting  the data.  He agreed  that tapering  down was  a                                                                    
long-term approach.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:36:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler asked  Commissioner Cotton  about tribal                                                                    
management   of  waterfowl   in  cooperation   with  federal                                                                    
agencies in  Alaska. He also  mentioned that there  had been                                                                    
some push for  more regarding state lands  and resources. He                                                                    
asked if there  was any current management of  fish and game                                                                    
resources in state  lands or waters. He wanted  his input on                                                                    
seeing anymore in the state.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cotton deferred to Mr. Dale.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE  DALE, DIRECTOR,  DIVISION  OF WILDLIFE  CONSERVATION,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT  OF FISH  AND GAME,  asked Vice-Chair  Saddler to                                                                    
repeat his question.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler was aware  of some cooperative management                                                                    
of  waterfowl with  federal agencies  and he  had seen  some                                                                    
desire by native  communities to have an  increasing role in                                                                    
wildlife  management. He  asked if  there was  currently any                                                                    
native  or  tribal management  of  state  wildlife and  fish                                                                    
resources and his thought about expanding those.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Dale  responded that  there  was  no other  cooperative                                                                    
management in  place that he  was aware of. He  relayed that                                                                    
there were  questions about  the ability  under the  law for                                                                    
the authority  that had been given  to the Board of  Game to                                                                    
delegate  authority to  another entity.  He believed  it was                                                                    
clear that the board was not  able to in a general sense. In                                                                    
terms of  delegating authority from  management, he  did not                                                                    
believe  it had  occurred. Waterfowl  was managed  under the                                                                    
Migratory  Bird  Treaty  Act  making  it  possible  and  the                                                                    
distinction.  In the  spirit of  cooperative management  the                                                                    
state  had  at  least  a  few  if  not  several  cooperative                                                                    
managements  such  as  the   Western  Arctic  Caribou  Heard                                                                    
cooperative management  groups where  they did not  have the                                                                    
authority  to  back  the   regulations  but  worked  closely                                                                    
together to  advise the board of  their recommendations. The                                                                    
International  Porcupine  Caribou  Heard board  was  another                                                                    
example.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler asked if the  department would welcome or                                                                    
seek  out   the  opportunity   to  expand   the  cooperative                                                                    
agreements in the future.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Cotton  replied that  he would  like to                                                                    
cooperate. He  was aware  that there  would be  some private                                                                    
land holders  that might be  interested. However,  the state                                                                    
could   not  surrender   management   authority  but   could                                                                    
cooperate.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  commented that  he wished  the state  had a                                                                    
marine  mammal management  act rather  than having  a Marine                                                                    
Mammal  Protection Act  to be  able  to manage  some of  the                                                                    
wildlife.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Acting  Commissioner Cotton  indicated  he  would follow  up                                                                    
with Representative Munoz question independently.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  thanked the  presenters and  announced that                                                                    
there would not be a finance meeting on the following day.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:40:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:40 p.m.                                                                                          

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